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Old 08-21-2012, 03:45 PM   #1
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Supose you are trolling at 1.5-1.7 and then you increase your speed to 1.9-2.1 do your dipsy's go deeper or do they shallow up? Thanks for any help Goose!!
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:59 PM   #2
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I believe they go deeper.

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Old 08-21-2012, 04:13 PM   #3
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I think they go shallower the faster you go because dipseys will sink so they are speed dependent as well as a diving device.I know running colorado blades on harnesses at 1.5mph and slower on a 2 setting cannot let out much more than 150' or we will drag bottom in 72'fow.Also the slower you go the less separation you get between the dipseys running them 3 to a side.

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Old 08-21-2012, 04:15 PM   #4
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Wrong. Lead sinks dude.
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Old 08-21-2012, 04:35 PM   #5
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They dive based upon resistance. The luhr jensen depth chart is based upon a 2.5 mph troll and the depth will increase by 10% for each mph faster troll. Will post the reference link shortly. I have a printed copy in hand.

They drop like an anchor when the boat stops because of the lead. But the lead is for the direction.

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Old 08-21-2012, 04:39 PM   #6
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It will rise in water column. For sure!

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Old 08-21-2012, 04:42 PM   #7
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http://www.allseasonssports.com/store.asp?pid=11492

Read the very last paragraph after the depth chart.

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Old 08-21-2012, 04:45 PM   #8
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Dipseys dive deeper at slower speeds, absolutely no doubt about it.

The faster you go the more they plane to the sides. The further to the side they plane the shallower they run.

Want proof? Let out your dipseys til the start to tick bottom. Bring in enough line so they stop ticking bottom. Now slow down .2 MPH, guarantee they will tick again!
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Old 08-21-2012, 04:46 PM   #9
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I can guarantee it will rise in water column at those speeds.
You need to go out and try it if you dont believe anyone..................

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Old 08-21-2012, 04:52 PM   #10
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If your running them at a high setting I can see your point, but that doesn't seem to hold if your running them at or near a 0 setting.

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Trolling depths will increase/decrease by 10% for each 1 m.p.h. faster or slower. Line diameter and lure or attractor drag can also affect depth reached

You mean this?
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Everybody is right, depends on the setting whether it will rise (go away) or dig based on my experience, can't break it down like a chart though, just the angles I see at the end of my poles.
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Yes. I'm associating them in order that faster and deeper go together.

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Old 08-21-2012, 05:13 PM   #14
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the lead is still there what ever the setting is, zero or 3 setting. so slowing down they sink speeding up they rise.
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Old 08-21-2012, 05:28 PM   #15
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I've never trolled a dipsey in my life, but k gone, buck.eyehunter, and Papascott are all saying the same thing.....that's enough for me to make my own judgement.
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Is that 2.5-3 mph speed over ground or down speed.
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Wrong. Lead sinks dude.
yep, go slower and they will sink, thats why when you make a turn, your inside dips pick up mussles.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:19 PM   #18
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They absolutely run deeper the slower you go...shallower the faster you go. At rest, they will be straight down, because of the lack of water resistance...just like anything you pull through water, the faster you go, the more resistance. There's really not much difference between a bottom bouncer and a dipsey except the dipsey's ability to plane out.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:19 PM   #19
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Thanks guys i have some good input to go off of tomorrow i was told i need to go deeper so i think i will drop my 3 setting to 180ft. instead of 150ft. and see what happens!! Last time i couldn't pick any up until i picked my speed up to 1.9-2.1 mph gps speed but i think i was above them most of the day!! Thanks again!!
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:48 PM   #20
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[QUOTE=Papascott;1475566]Trolling depths will increase/decrease by 10% for each 1 m.p.h. faster or slower. Line diameter and lure or attractor drag can also affect depth reached

Papascott, here is a question for ya. How much drag does a 8" spin doctor add to a #1 dipsy. I was wondering that when we were in ollcott. What percentage should I add to my lead lengths to reach the acquired depth on the chart.
When I was running a dipsy spoon next to a dipsy spin doc and fly combo, the combos line angle was a lot higher than the spoon.

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