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Old 08-08-2012, 11:57 PM   #1
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Do you think they could really hurt our native fish populations? Are there steps we can take as responsible anglers to thwart the possible threat?

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Old 08-09-2012, 12:06 AM   #2
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They're fish... Swimming up a river... And reproducing... I doubt that fisherman could do anything to stop that from happening. Years ago people also said that zebra mussels would destroy lake erie... Well, they've been there for quite some time now.. And I don't see a lot of damage from them
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:17 AM   #3
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Ya, I don't mean by fishing...but by creating awareness, talking with policymakers, etc.

...and the effects of zebra mussels have yet yo be determined. They cleared up the water, making it easier for gobys (non-native) to find smallmouth beds..

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Old 08-09-2012, 12:39 AM   #4
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There's no stopping them unfortunately. They will get into our rivers soon enough. Many of our rivers don't have ideal habitat for them, so the impact may be limited. The best thing we can do is monitor progression, monitor damage to native fish pops, and utilize the meat for something. These fish are rare in streams they are native to in Asia. Why? Because they are prone to overfishing. Hint hint.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:49 AM   #5
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Might be a fun alternative to sporting clays......
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Old 08-09-2012, 07:38 AM   #6
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I wouldn't worry so much about the rivers, it's the problem of "someone" releasing them on purpose into our waterway's." This happened at C Mills & Pleasant Hill with someone dumping sheapshead, now you can catch them quite often! Just hope some "NUT CASE" doesn't get the urge to do something so stupid!!!!!

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Old 08-09-2012, 11:02 PM   #7
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Well talk to someone who fishes on the Mississippi or other areas they are in and they will tell you whats up with them. They have already hurt the native fish population and take over everything. There was talk a while back about poisoning the waters that they were in to kill them off that would also kill the other fish. Haven't heard much about them in a while but they are certainly a catch and NOT release fish. It will be a sad day if they ever get into the lake.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:52 AM   #8
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But remember most of these fish swim in the lower part of old man river which most of the time stays warm year round. I'm curious to know if these fish could handle our winters(excluding last years winter) also there are a few predator fish that could benefit from them. Bowfin gar cats pike and Muskie. We have far more predator fish in Ohio waterways then most freshwater streams in the south. Combine that with human management they may not become that big of a problem.


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Old 08-10-2012, 06:36 AM   #9
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We had a thread on them earlier...First, the asian carp are super efficient filter feeders, they grow quickly, and can get up to 100 lbs which requires even more food. The damage to fisheries comes from them eating all the plankton and microscopic food that hatchlings and fry of Native fish depend on to survive! The Native fish die out from lack of offspring.
Second, they reproduce with multiple yearly spawns and millions of eggs per fish per spawn...they spread quickly and only subside when there is no longer food to support the population!
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Old 08-10-2012, 09:54 AM   #10
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We could learn a lesson on how to deal with it from our own history--maybe defray license fees based on how many carp dorsal fins you bring in:

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Squirrels were a plague for early settlers, destroying crops in the fields and eating stored food in the granaries.

In 1807, Ohio property owners were not only required to pay taxes, but also to turn in a set number of squirrel scalps. Township trustees placed the number at anywhere from 10 to 100 scalps. The Ohio General Assembly required townships to fine property owners 3 cents for each scalp they were short and pay them 2 cents for each scalp over...

On Aug. 29, 1822, The Columbus Gazette, raising the possibility of “serious injury” to the crops, called for a “general turnout of all citizens … for two or three days, in order to prevent the alarming ravages of these mischievous neighbors.” The hunt produced 19,660 scalps, though many hunters did not report their take, the paper reported.
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Old 08-11-2012, 03:20 PM   #11
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I watched a show about them on youtube and a guy was saying they really taste good i would try one
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:33 AM   #12
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Seriously, in 5 national "blind' taste tests over 50% of the people who tried them canned PREFERED them to tuna...it wasn`t until the word "carp" was involved that most people changed their mind. Myself, if it tasted good before I knew it was bighead carp, it`d taste just as good afterwards.
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Seriously, in 5 national "blind' taste tests over 50% of the people who tried them canned PREFERED them to tuna...it wasn`t until the word "carp" was involved that most people changed their mind. Myself, if it tasted good before I knew it was bighead carp, it`d taste just as good afterwards.
Sounds like they need to change the name and mass produce the canned product! If it's everywhere and cheap, people will end up buying it.
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:38 AM   #14
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Huh, I was googling around and I found Carp USA:

http://www.carp-usa.info/index.html
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the bigheads and silver carp are already above ciny- on the ohio river,and some have been caught at the greenup dam this year. there is a post about the northern advance of them in the ohio river section.
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Wonder if there fun to catch?


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Old 08-15-2012, 05:10 PM   #17
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catching a 40# plus fish i think would be fun..but they don,t bite that easy,maybe snagging one or get the bow out for sure...
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"friends don't let friends fish alone....... Good call!!!!"
From everything I have read, they are strictly filter feeders--like whales. That means you can't catch them on a hook and line, you've got to catch them like whales: shoot them. I have seen some interesting gizmos for commercial fishing porpoises.

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Old 08-15-2012, 05:27 PM   #19
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I snagged two over 15 pounds just below meldahl dam this past January fishing for hybrids. Had to take a little break after both because they just pulled and pulled. Got them in a creek a few hundred yards from the river and they both headed deep and towards the river. A blast to catch however those two didn't make it back in the water.
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:25 PM   #20
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There is now a sticky at the top of this forum explaining one way you can help prevent the spread of this vermin into our inland waterways.
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